The following transcript is reprinted with the permission of,

Ann Fischer, Exec. SYSOP

COMPUSERVE UFO FORUM

(EDITED BY JOHN VELEZ)


Chat session with,

Dr David Jacobs, Ph.D

Continued from previous.

Tracy/Moderator | Guiliana, you're next.GA

Giuliana | Hello, David, you mentioned that they (aliens) seem to work for a common goal. My multiple question to you is; what is the common goal? ...and do you find any similarity, parallel, between the experiences with aliens and what is experienced through meditation...NDE...and use of drugs? GA

David M. Jacobs | The common goal is the physiological exploitation of humans for the purposes of their breeding
program. I do find a few surface similarities between the abduction phenom, and these other areas but actually they are very different. One must keep in mind that people are physically missing from their normal environments, other peopel some times see them being abducted, and they often desparately wish that they are never abducted again.GA

Tracy/Moderator | Giuliana, follow-up question?GA

Giuliana | no

Tracy/Moderator | Matt, you're next.GA

Giuliana | thank you, David and Tracy. GA

Matt | Dr. Jacobs, what precautions do you take to minimize accusations of inducing false memories? this is a common objection to hypnosis. In "Secret Life", for example, you ask straight out for abductees to try to remember entering the craft.... just the sort of thing a critic might point to as inducing a false memory? ga

David M. Jacobs | I address the false memory problem at length in my new book. Abductions happen to people the
night before rather than forty years agao as a child. They are not brought out through therapists intervention. They are often remembered as soon as they happened and never forgotten. And, others see people being abducted and they might or might not be abducted themselves. People are phsyically missing from their environments--police have been
called and so forth (just had computer glitch sorry.) the problem of asking leading questions is another story...GA

Tracy/Moderator | Matt, follow-up question?GA

Matt | just a comment - its good to address the isssue seriously and at length. I agree abductions are not false memories and this objection needs to be put to rest. ga

Tracy/Moderator | Robin, you're next.GA

"ECL Robin | David, It has been my impression that Reptiles are very negative. Why would they be working with other species who are supposedly working for our benefit? In addition, do you suppose the abduction/contact phenomena follows one from lifetime to lifetime?

David M. Jacobs | I have heard fairly awful things about all the aliens. I think that people think that the more repitilian ones are worse because of the way they look. I am not sure that the evidence bears out their meaness.
Once we get into other lives, my expertize drops to nothing. ga

Tracy/Moderator | Robin, follow-up question?GA

"ECL Robin | thanks. ga

Pete P./ExecSYSOP | Dr. Jacobs, as Budd Hopkins is your friiend too, do you agree with each others findings?

Susanne | ?

Shannon K./ASYSOP | ?

David M. Jacobs | We agree in the main. He tends to find the aliens more deceptive than I do at times. I think that the aliens are more straightforward. We disagree on government involvement and other more terrestrial things. I tend also to emphasize the role of mental procedures in the abduction scenario more than Budd does. There are other areas of disagreement.GA"

Tracy/Moderator | Pete, follow-up question?GA

Pete P./ExecSYSOP | How do you think his book Witness will be received? ga

David M. Jacobs | Well, there has already been a lot of discussion about the case in the past five years. I am glad that
the book is finally out to set the record straight. I think that the book is being released at exactly the right time because of the tremendous amount of societal interest in the subject. So, I am hoping that the book does well. Good, thoughtful writing about the subject is in short supply.ga

Tracy/Moderator | Debbie, you're next.GA

Debbie F./SYSOP | Do you have any insight as to the level of covert operations or military involvement in abductions and/or hybridization? Thanks, GA

David M. Jacobs | I have found no evidence that the government knows about or cares about the abduction phenomenon. GA

Debbie F./SYSOP | thanks, GA

Tracy/Moderator | Debbie, follow-up?GA

Debbie F./SYSOP | no, thanks ga

Tracy/Moderator | Susanne, you're next.GA

Susanne | What do you think the general age for people discovering their involvement occurs? Do you think younger people go through more or less trauma? or is it the same?.. Also <sorry>... do you think younger people are finding out more now a days ...than lets say...10 years ago or more? ga

"ECL Robin | ?

David M. Jacobs | Good questions. People vary about when they understand that something odd is happening to them. Abductions generally begin in infancy and go through old age. When they are young, abductions tend to be remembered more than when abductees are adults. Younger people, in general, go through less trauma because the reproductive procedures do not begin for boys untll puberty, and the sexual procedures for girls begin at the same time. I do think that younger people are more aware now because they can identify it easier in the media and connect it with what has been happening to them.ga

Tracy/Moderator | Susanne, follow-up question?GA

Susanne | No, thanks. Ga :)

Tracy/Moderator | Shannon, you're next.GA

Shannon K./ASYSOP | Hi David...I wanted to ask if either you or Budd Hopkins have ever felt as if you or your families might also be abductees? Have you ever had reason to believe/suspect that this might be possible?

David M. Jacobs | Neither I nor Budd are abductees. My mother and my father were not abductees and my children
are not. All would be if I were an abductee.ga

Tracy/Moderator | Shannon, follow-up?GA

Shannon K./ASYSOP | No thanks.

Tracy/Moderator | Robin, you're next.GA

"ECL Robin | In the abduction/contact scenario do you find that it is limited to the 'breeding' program or is there
more to it for some people?

David M. Jacobs | There is more to it than that, although the breeding program is the core of it. We are still wrestling with the mental procedures and their meaning. Also hybridization inevitably points to a future for the
hybrids.GA

Tracy/Moderator | Robin, follow-up question?GA

"ECL Robin | could you get a bit more in detail about that?

David M. Jacobs | People are shown disaster scenarios, of death and destruction. They are also shown scenes of idyllic peace. What are the meaning of these displays? Why are the hybrids being created in the first place? These are important questions that we are only now beginning to address.GA

Tracy/Moderator | May, you're next.GA

May | Some people feel that the ETs have caused some people to come together and eventually get into a romantic situation. Do you think this is part of their hybridization program? GA

David M. Jacobs | Yes, this is part of the scenario and I believe part of the breeding program, but I am not sure that
it is part of hybridization. I tend to think that there are certain qualities that the abductees have that the beings would like to be passed on to their offspring.GA

Tracy/Moderator | May, follow-up question?GA

May | Thanks David & Tracy. no followup. GA

Tracy/Moderator | If that's all of the questions, I think the conference is formally over. Dr. Jacobs, thank you for sharing your time with us!! It was a great and informative conference. We're looking forward to your upcoming book and having you back again to talk with us further.

David M. Jacobs | Thanks Tracy. It was fun! ga

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(EDITED BY JOHN VELEZ)


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