Dr. Jacobs, do you have an
opening statement or should we start with questions?
Chessie | I am curious to know your opinion on UFO vs. the
Christianity info?
David M. Jacobs
| All I can say is that
this is an extremely important area and information about it is not
too available.
Tracy/Moderator | Chessie, please enter a ? for a question and
wait to be called on, please.:-)
David M.
Jacobs | My answer
to the question about christianity is that the major religious of the
world are probalby elastic and flexible enough to incorporate the UFO
and abduction phenomenon.
Tracy/Moderator | Ann, you're up.GA
Ann F./ExecSYSOP | Thanks for joining us tonight.... What
strikes you as the most interesting aspect of abductions to date?
David M.
Jacobs | I have
been researching UFOs and abductions for over 30 years and I find
nearly all aspects of them to be very interesting. I am especially
interested in the hybrid phenomenon.
Ann F./ExecSYSOP | Thanks David, so you've found the hybrid
program is widespread?
David M. Jacobs
| This is a secret
phenomenon operated clandestinely. They are doing something to us
that we do not like. They know that.
Tracy/ Moderator | Matt, you're next. GA
Matt | Dr. Jacobs, can you tell us what your new book is
about?
David M.
Jacobs | I am in
the throes of just completing yet another revision of it. It will be
published at the beginng of next summer. It is about the future of
the abduction phenomenon and the meaning of it all.
Tracy/Moderator | Steve, you're next. GA
Steve Q | What are your latest findings about the reasons for
abductions, could you please elaborate on anything you have found out
about the hybred subspecies.
David M.
Jacobs | I have
found that the hybrid phenomenon is far more complicated than we had
thought. The process of hybridization is more complex as well. I have
found that the hybrids might be bred to look increasingly like
humans.
Tracy /Moderator | Steve, follow-up question?GA
Steve Q | Yes, what is complicated about the hybred
program?
David M. Jacobs
| I used to think that
hybrids were made by joining alien "DNA" and human sperm and eggs. I
think that this is only the beginning stage. I think that each
successive stage is somewhat like that, but increasingly using more
human DNA.
Tracy /Moderator | Bill, you're next.
Bill | I read alot about this subject, and will most likley
read your new book when it is out. I just finished Witnessed by Budd
Hopkins (about the case of Linda in NYC), do you have any thoughts on
that incident?
David M.
Jacobs | Budd
Hopkins has researched this case exhaustivley. I think that this is a
good, solid, case that is extraordinary because of the number of
witnesses and the character of the witnesses.
Tracy /Moderator | Tom, you're next. GA
Tom Genereaux | I note that the sequencing of the purported
hybridization program tracks *human* science. Comment?
David M.
Jacobs | I am not
sure what you mean.
Tom Genereaux | I find it suspect that the "alien" hybrid
program is tracking...human DNA understanding....and that the
bleeding edge techniques of human science are those being used by the
aliens.
David M. Jacobs
| I would not presume
to understand the science that is employed in the techniques that
aliens use. I do know that they have an exceptionally advanced of
knowledge of human biology and physiology.
Tracy/Moderator | Tom, follow-up?
Tom Genereaux | David - that's the problem, though...they aren't any
more advanced in practice than the last Journal of Celluar
Biology.
David M. Jacobs
| This is not what I
have found. This is a very advanced science that we are dealing with.
Any attempts to try to link it to human science and thus to human
imagination have failed.
Tracy/Moderator | Chessie, you're next.
Chessie | Is there any evidence of human/alien embroyos from
impregnated female humans?
David M. Jacobs
| Aliens have no
apparent genitals. There is no evidence of sexual contact between
aliens and humans. However, all of the female abductees with whom I
have worked over any extended period of time have indicated fetal
implantations and fetal extractions from them during abduction
events. The missing fetus is sometimes noticed and sometimes not.
Tracy/Moderator | Visitor, you're next. GA
- Visitor | I'm a newcomer to all this. I take it you believe there
are aliens on earth, and they abduct people. Why do we have no
evidence? Why are there no pictures? ...And please don't say it's a
conspiracy. Time and NBC would pay millions for a real photo.
David M. Jacobs
| At the beginning of
an abduction, the environment and the abductee is controlled. They
can walk, but not run. They can lift their arms, but not swing. They
cannot reach over, grab a bat, rifle, camera, knife, and so forth in
order to protect themselves or detect their abductors.
Tracy/Moderator | Follow-up, Visitor?GA
- Visitor | And in all these cases, not once has something gone
wrong. No one has gotten away with a picture, a piece of machinery, a
scrap of unearthly cloth?
David M. Jacobs
| We have learned that
Murphy's law applies throughout the universe. Things go wrong all the
time. No one has actually stolen anything because they are naked, and
walking around like, in their words "zombies." But we do have some
evidence from the event. More and more implants are being looked at,
Ihave a series of unusual stains from solutions used on abductees,
and every once in a while there is some other type of evidence.
Tracy/Moderator | Matt, you're next.
Matt | I was uncomfortable with the importance you attached to a
narrative line and literal interpretation of abduction events in
"Secret Life". What are your thoughts about possible symbolic content
and our own pyschology in shaping the experiences?
David M.
Jacobs | We now have
thousands of abduction cases. We know a tremendous amount about them.
We know that when an abductee describes the shape of a certain
instrument, what that instrument is used for even though the abductee
does not. People do not tend to talk in terms of symbols. They
describe real evnets that have befallen them.
Matt | the events are real, but they may be intended to communicate
symbolically, ...
David M.
Jacobs | I am not sure
what you mean. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Matt | i.e. the hybrids may symbolize integration necesaary for
pschological transformatiom,....they are real but symbolic....maybe
we're missing the point taking it too literally.
David M.
Jacobs | All attempts
to take the UFO and abduction phenomenon symbolically on any level,
have resulted in industrial strength wheel-spinning.
Tracy/Moderator | Harv, you're next.
HARV | In your line of work, have you run into any walls built by the
scholastic establishment, or has it been smooth sailing?
AND......What's your views on the governments' "DOES NOT EXIST"
policy.
David M.
Jacobs | I have been in
academia all of my adult life. Academics do not like this phenomenon.
They understand immediately the wide range of psychological and
psychiatric reasons for why people would think they are being
abducted. What they do not know is that we understand this as well
and have looked at all the alternative explanations. Suffice it to
say that this has not helped my career. Also, I do not beleive that
the Government knows much about this subject. I think it takes its
cues from the scientific community which is still resolutely hostile
to the subject.
Tracy/Moderator | Steve Q., you're up next.GA
Steve Q | Have you been the subject of any government harassment, if
so how and what kind of fire have you drawn from the University
system?
David M.
Jacobs | I have never
been questioned by anyone in the government. To the best of my
knowledge, my phones are not tapped. The university has not been
happy with my work. I won't go into my personal situation, but there
is a "situation."
Tracy/Moderator | Frank, you're next.
Frank Stanley, Ph.D | Hi David. If you would be willing to discuss to
some extent some of the information you have obtained about IHA and
the places their activities have been found? Also what do you think
their intentions are from your opinion? Waiting eagerly for your
book. Budd's is great.
David M. Jacobs
| Hi Frank. I owe you
some materials. IHA is Independent Hybrid Activity. There are
increasing numbers of reports of hybrids conducting abduction related
activities in an abductee's normal environment. These very disturbing
reports are going to be the heart of my next book. The activity takes
place almost anywhere and suggests that for short times, at least,
some hybrids can be here undetected.
Tracy/Moderator | Frank, follow-up question?GA
Frank Stanley, Ph.D | Can you elaborate on what you mean by in the
"normal environment?"
David M.
Jacobs | The abduction
activity does not take place on board a UFO. Rather it is in an
abductee's home or even in an abandoned or closed building or office.
All of this suggests an intrusion into human life that we had not
dreamed of before. It is the natural outcome of the hybrid
program.
Tracy/Moderator | Ann, you're next.
Ann F./ExecSYSOP | I've heard accounts from woman who have had total
hysterectomies who report they are still actively involved in the
hybrid program. Have you also heard of these accounts, and if so, is
there a theory to explain this?
David M. Jacobs
| I have worked with
women with tubal ligations, hysterectomies, oopherectomies, and who
are post-menopausal. All are stil not only involved with abductions,
but actively involved with producing hybrid babies. Once again this
will all be spelled out in my book, but I can say now that these
women are having what I call Self-Contained Gestational Units
inserted into them for reproductive purposes.
Tracy/Moderator | Ann, follow-up question?
Ann F./ExecSYSOP | No follow-up. Thanks David.
Tracy/Moderator | Jeannie, you're next.
Jeannie/ASYSOP | Thanks for joining us tonight! In light of your
statement that it appears that some of the hybrids are perhaps begin
created to appear more *human*, do you feel any of the hybrids are
integrated into life on earth as a way to enhance this more human
evolution in their genetics?.If so, how would we recognize them?Any
description as to their appearance and what we should *look* for?
David M.
Jacobs | I do not think
that you will find a hybrid working at the local 7-11 store. I think
that the evidence suggests that they can only be here for short
periods of time and that only certain hybrids are in this program. If
they were here, you would not be able to tell
them from full-fledged humans.
Tracy/Moderator Billie, you're next. GA
Billie Schofield | Dr. Jacobs, How long do you feel that the
abductions have been taking place in our society and do you think it
will continue for an indefinate period of time? What do you feel is
their ultimate goal?
David M.
Jacobs | I think that
abductions have been occuring since the late 1890s. Trying to place
it much earlier has been problematic. I think that we are at the end
of the abduction program. In my opinion we have between five and
forty years left and I tend to lean to the fifteen year time period.
I think that the evidence is increasingly pointing to some sort of
integration into the society by the aliens or the hybrids or
both.
Tracy/Moderator | Ann, you're next.
Ann | Has anyone yet identified any commonalities among abductees? I
have talked to a number of abductees in the forum over the last year
and it seems to follow "families" . . .could "they" be tracking
certain X or Y chromosomes, or could other individual genes be
involved? I would assume that ET is expert at gene mapping?
David M. Jacobs
| We have found no
commonalities as yet among abductees. Actually nothing overt, but we
have not mounted a sustained medical search over a large number of
people. It runs in families. If one is an abductee, there is a great
chance that one's father or mother or both were abductees as
well.
Tracy/Moderator | Steve Q., you're next.
Steve Q | You spoke of the hybrids only remaining here for short
periods. Do you have a concept of where they are when not here? IE
normal space time and off planet or are they multi-dimensional?
David M.
Jacobs | We know that
they are not -here-. My guess is that the majority of them live on
some other planet or wherever. I also think that a significant number
of them reside on UFOs where there task is to assist in the abduction
and breeding program. It is also important to say that the abduction
phenomenon takes place in real time without any time-space
alterations as far as we can see. But you
have to remember that we are dealing with a superior technology.
Tracy/Moderator | Ann, you're next.GA
Ann F./ExecSYSOP | Which species of aliens besides the greys are
involved in the hybrid program?
David M.
Jacobs | There are a
number of reports of Insectoid, repitilian , and other types of
aliens involved. The bottom line is that they are all doing the same
thing. They usually are all together on board, and the net effects on
the abductee are the same. So whatever the species , they seem to be
working in concert for the common goal.
Tracy/Moderator | Steve, you're next.GA
Steve Q | I have been in the "abductee/contactee" catagory for over
40 years. I have had incidents that seem to indicate not normal space
time continum, but it is rare. Example; one abduction that would
normally take 1 and a half hours was completed in 4 minutes from a
car. Any
comments?
David M.
Jacobs | This may be
true in your case, but all events must be investigated by a competent
individual. Consciously remembered events are, contrary to current
opinion, notoriously inaccurate.
Tracy/Moderator | Steve, follow-up question?
Steve Q | I did not conciously recall the event, but had the normal
rectal bleeding following an abduction. I've had a vasoectomy. They
do the sperm removal via the back side of the testes. Comments?
David M.
Jacobs | Once again,
competent investigation by a hypnotist who is well-versed in the
realities of the abduction phenomenon and in hypnosis should help
resolve the issues. Sperm removal via the back of the testes is
something that apparently does happen. I know that men with
vasectomies still report sperm harvesting procedures.
Tracy/Moderator | Frank, you're next.GA
Frank Stanley, Ph.D | David. What makes you come up with the time
line of the end of abductions, namely, what specifically are you
focusing in on? Would you be willing to come back again and discuss
your book in greater detail in the future or right after it is
out?
David M.
Jacobs | My time line
is based on what aliens and hybrids tell the abductees. They all say
that the end of the program is near. They are vague about when the
actual end is coming but from what I can gather it will be soon. I
will be glad to come back and bore people whenever I am asked.
Tracy/Moderator | Great! We'll defintely ask.<G> Shelley, your
next.
Shelley | In speaking and working with abductees, what is the general
nature of the experiences? Do people seem to grow from them overall,
or are they more of a traumatic nature?
David M.
Jacobs |Excellent
question. People cope with the phenomenon in a variety of ways
depending on how they have coped with it (without knowing) over their
lives and also on the quality of individual who has been their
investigator. I try to be as honest and accurate as I possibly can.
BS is easy to come by in this area. My responsibility is to say "The
buck stops here" Now we will engage with the material on a realistic
basis and learn to cope with it in a way that allows for one's life
to continue even though one may know that it might happen again.
Tracy/Moderator | May, you're next.
May | In a case where the generations of ones family are not abducted
and there are no signs of the usual light in the bedroom, floating in
the air, etc present..... What do you make of the event where one has
seen a ufo and experienced missing time? How does this experience
differ?
David M.
Jacobs | Basically,
what you are dealing with is the amount of information that the
person remembers consciously about the event. Most people remember
absolutely nothing and could never imagine that they are involved
with the abduction phenomenon. Others remember bright lights, some
remember missing time, some remember beings in their room, and so
forth. There is no set thing that should or should not be remembered.
Each case must be investigated on its own.